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, debt ceiling. on the other hand, despite all of that liquidity, we have mediocre employment growth, manufacturing data, while it has improved is still around that recessionary line of 50 and to your point around m2 that's very interesting and yet we're still at record low velocity of money. that's very scary. all this money pumped into the system is sitting on the balance sheets of banks, corporations. >> nominal gdp is starting to rise. >> slowly. >> what about the information revolution? now, you made an important point. so far why should raise taxes on investors, terrible idea. i'm hoping do no harm, maybe some small spending cuts so that's not going to be a factor. i don't see a debt default. i think that's off the table. what blt american energy revolution, what about the growth, what about the cheap natural gas and what about how that makes america so competitive? i'm only talking 2.5% growth, not 3%, 4, 5% growth. >> the fertilizer trusts are on fires. ammonia is going to be cheap, that's terrific. but here's a factoid for you. kmn's exports to asia are up 20% year on year.
made this deal yeah, we are going to extend the debt ceiling. now, it gets attached to a balanced budget. >> two points, in regard to congressman welch. when you have liberal s ip the house and senate, that is their plan to spend more money. i know you are talking about our budget larry, but we have to step back. there is going to be no budget that takes place unless the senate passes a budget. but to get congress both chambers to work together, we need the senate to pass the budget. so we said no budget senate, no pay. that is a way to get the senate to engage. >> i'm not challenging your logic, but i'm challenging your process. the series of dates that is so important one is april 15th. i preseume that is paul ryan's budget. i don't see how you can vote tomorrow on a debt extepgs nsio increase and attach a balanced budget before you know what the balanced budget is. i see that as a problem. i want peter to tackle that. >> we are passing the no budget no pay act. it is going to give both chambers, the senate and the house to pass the budgets. what you are hearing is, the house is
. look there's a reason why the republicans in the white house caved on the debt ceiling. the public is not with them on these issues. >> don't know. kate, you have a little different view. i think republicans now back in the driver's seat because they cooperated on raising the debt ceiling. they forced the senate democrats to put up a budget. the next thing will be the continuing resolution, short term spending cuts. i think the gop by stopping taxes is back in play, they are back in play. >> i love your optimism, larry. i wish i could be jumping up and down with you. but i'm afraid the republicans are in full retreat. i'm hoping -- i know they won't agree to this tax increase. the senator is absolutely right. but the problem is the democrats are using this as another opportunity to put republicans of throwing granny off the cliff, caring only about their millionaire and billionaire buddies. patty murray said we'll put it on the people who best can afford it. it worked for president obama, the democrats, like the cbs news political director said is to go for the jugular, to cut the
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